Saturday, January 14, 2006

Legal polygamy in Canada because of the feminists Þ

Kanada will now join the !! Developing World!! The children will then will be able to pay old age pensions to writers of the report.

WAIT UNTIL Pat Roberson hears of that Þ

Taxpayer-funded study recommends repealing law that bans polygamy in Canada


BY DEAN BEEBY
Thu Jan 12, 4:46 PM ET

Link:polygamy_project_1



OTTAWA (CP) - A new study for the federal Justice Department says Canada should get rid of its law banning polygamy, and change other legislation to help women and children living in such multiple-spouse relationships.

"Criminalization does not address the harms associated with valid foreign polygamous marriages and plural unions, in particular the harms to women," says the report, obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act. "The report therefore recommends that this provision be repealed."

The research paper is part of a controversial $150,000 polygamy project, launched a year ago and paid for by the Justice Department and Status of Women Canada.

The paper by three law professors at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., argues that Sec. 293 of the Criminal Code banning polygamy serves no useful purpose and in any case is rarely prosecuted.

Instead, Canadian laws should be changed to better accommodate the problems of women in polygamous marriages, providing them clearer spousal support and inheritance rights.


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foreign polygamistsby: jfentoca2000 (32/M/at the arena)
01/12/06 06:56 pmMsg: 2 of 269 1 recommendation
I could see them protecting people from another country in plural marriages,but they need to word it clearly and precisely so that some left leaning activist judge can't " re interpret" the law. Lie they seem to do at the drop of a hat.

This one says that it is because of the feminists

What the hell...go for it?by: JasanoPovaCowano (30/M/ontario, canada)
01/13/06 12:40 amMsg: 122 of 269 1 recommendation
Bah, and I find your rhetoric equally vacuous. Since we've been pursuing this agenda, the number of correlations that spring to the fore are too numerous to list.We've seen divorce rising, morality falling, violent crime rising, sanity falling, breakups and breakdowns and an ever increasing relliance are bigger and more bloated government.I do not blame women for any of these things, however, and in this you are quite misguided. This is a concerted effort, from globalist forces, far greater than any room full of angry feminists. This is a United Nations depopulation plan, and to hell with the consequences.I find it interesting, that while feminism can be correlated so very strongly with child poverty, broken families, and runaway divorce rates, that someone, as educated as yourself, would not even at least consider what the longterm ramifications of this policy making have been. In fact, we seem, as a society, wholly unable and unwilling to do so.

MORE of the original text in arkive in in the following comments

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Currently, there's a hodgepodge of legislation across the provinces, some of whom - Ontario, for example - give limited recognition to foreign polygamous marriages for the purposes of spousal support. Some jurisdictions provide no relief at all.

Chief author Martha Bailey says criminalizing polygamy, typically a marriage involving one man and several wives, serves no good purpose and prosecutions could do damage to the women and children in such relationships.

"Why criminalize the behaviour?" she said in an interview. "We don't criminalize adultery.

"In light of the fact that we have a fairly permissive society .n.n. why are we singling out that particular form of behaviour for criminalization?"

Instead, there are other laws available to deal with problems often associated with polygamous unions, which are not legally recognized as marriages in Canada.

"If there are problems such as child abuse, or spousal abuse, there are other criminal provisions or other laws dealing with those problems that certainly should be enforced," Bailey said.

The Justice Department project was prompted in part by an RCMP investigation into the religious community of Bountiful in Creston, B.C., where polygamy is practised openly.

The British Columbia government has long been considering whether to lay charges under Section 293.

But the project was also intended to provide the Liberal government with ammunition to help defend its same-sex marriage bill last spring.

Opponents claimed the bill, now law, was a slippery slope that would open the door to polygamy and even bestiality.

Another report for the project, also led by two Queen's University professors, dismisses the slippery-slope argument, saying that allowing same-sex marriages promotes equality while polygamous marriages are generally harmful to women's interests and would therefore promote inequality.

Liberal Justice Minister Irwin Cotler said he has seen only a summary of the research reports, but already rejects lifting the criminal ban on polygamy.

"At this point, the practice of polygamy, bigamy and incest are criminal offences in Canada and will continue to be," he said from Montreal.

"These reports will become part of the knowledge base on this issue and will be taken into account."

The Bailey report, consistent with other research for the project, also concludes the courts might well rule that Canada's law banning polygamy is a violation of Canada's constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion.

But Section 293 would survive such a challenge because the harm to women and children in many polygamous marriages is well documented - abuse, poverty, coercion, health problems - and the limit to religious freedom would be considered "reasonable," as allowed under Section 1 of the charter.

Although the Bountiful case raises immediate issues, Canada is also faced with a rising tide of immigration from Africa and the Middle East, where polygamy is legally and religiously sanctioned. Immigration officers can refuse entry to individuals practising polygamy.

Bailey said Canada should nevertheless offer some recognition to polygamous marriages that are legally valid in foreign countries to help protect women's rights here.

Another paper for the project, by the Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre, urges British Columbia to proceed immediately with a prosecution in Bountiful.

"Based on the harms associated with polygamy as it is practised in Bountiful, there do not appear to be any alternatives to prosecution, however difficult it may be."

Safiyyah said...

"But Section 293 would survive such a challenge because the harm to women and children in many polygamous marriages is well documented - abuse, poverty, coercion, health problems - and the limit to religious freedom would be considered "reasonable," as allowed under Section 1 of the charter."

Well, the question to ask is whether harm is inevitable within a polygamous relationship. How would they be different from open marriages, for example?

Ann Þø said...

I know that there are many polygamous cases (maybe 95 % ) where there is no harm done.

All violence depends on the individual, not on the situation. A bully is a bully whatever the relationship.!

Ann Þø said...

On the blog

http://readeriam.blogspot.com/2006/01/sex-yes-nudity-no.html#comments

Anne wrote:
At

http://readeriam.blogspot.com/2006/01/sex-yes-nudity-no.html#113727780376296670

Ann wrote:
For Pastor_Jeff and other

January 13, 2006
Should Polygamy be Legalized in Canada?
at
http://www.safiyyah.ca/wordpress/?p=217
A muslim? woman
Discusses:

....that it is not the fact that a marriage is polygamous or monogamous

..snip..

.. would be available to assist the other wives wi.....

MY own view are that there are loving muslims and pagans and hindus......Extemist may even be loving.

But the bully is a bully.

Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:30:03 PM